In my opinion, that conversation verified the fact that he’s very inexperienced with girls.
I don’t at all think he’s had as much sex as he lets on, which is probably why he’s always joking about his “number” being ridiculously high. The number he told Frankie was somewhere in the twenties… but even that’s questionable to me. Even Frankie finds it questionable.
In the most recent video of Frankie asking the others whether or not they believed Zach’s number was accurate, Frankie was mouthing “twenty?” a couple times, so he doesn’t even think that Zach’s slept with twenty girls.
I think his number is probably in the one digits, to be honest.
And the way he spoke about having sex with girls… yikes. The jack-hammer? The fact that he just likes to go straight to sex and omit foreplay? The fact that he thought getting a blowjob for ten minutes was freaky? That’s the least freaky sex act anyone could do. He didn’t even know what a cock-ring was!
The boy is so innocent and doesn’t even realize it. Just look how he reacts to Frankie making out with his neck; he’s SO incredibly sensitive and susceptible to being touched by someone he likes, which to me indicates that he’s not as used to it as he says.
I personally think it’s the cutest thing. Frankie better teach him well ;)
It’s actually really endearing how inexperienced Zach is. As soon as he said that a girl not letting him fuck her until she gave him a blowjob was her being “freaky,” I was just like, “oh, you sweet boy.” I can’t wait until he finds someone (either Frankie or someone else) that’ll help him explore his sexuality to the fullest.
So to recap, and per his own words, Zach is not interested in:
I’m really beginning to think both Jill Rance and Zach’s friend Drew’s distaste with Frankie stems from the same thing…not wanting Zach to be gay…or something other than straight.
Otherwise, it just doesn’t make any sense. Seriously almost ALL the other HG’s have said WAY WORSE things about Zach than Frankie has. Cody’s favorite past time is shit talking Zach and even Derrick said he was going to punch Zach in the jaw. The girls LOVED talking shit about Zach. Frankie was the ONLY one in the house to continually make sure Zach was okay, that he was sleeping enough, trying to keep him calm, making him laugh or cuddling him when he was down, telling him to pull himself together, making sure he ate. Frankie took care of Zach. He was the ONLY one who did that. Without Frankie in that house, Zach would have lost his mind and probably got evicted way before he did. Frankie kept him happy and sane. I hate seeing people getting angry at Frankie for calling Zach a lunatic. Fuck that. Zach LOVED being called a lunatic. Frankie would also continually call him smart and talented.
The fact that Jill and Drew only see Frankie as a problem - the one who has made their son’s time in the bb house happy and bearable - the one person their son seems to genuinely love - shows that their is something else going on in their minds.
110% accurate. THIS is why Zach needs be flooded with messages that are the opposite of the ones he’s going to get from Jill and Drewzella. Don’t send them to his straight “friends”. Send them to ZACH.
6231 PGA Blvd, Ste. 104-131
Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33418
Write ‘private’ on the outside of it.
Now that Zach’s mom has set up a PO box for him, I really hope that he gets letters from fans who have been struggling with their sexuality. Regardless of whether Zach is straight, gay, or bi, I’m sure seeing his relationship with Frankie on TV probably helped a lot of young people out there who feel alone or feel like they can’t be who they are.
Those are the kinds of things that Zach needs to hear.
— Zach’s mom (via turntupzackattack8)
See? If she was sooo cool about homosexuality and had gay people surrounding her in their family, then THIS would not be her gut reaction.
You are pulling them into the closet, perhaps against their will. Setting all that aside, you seem very sensitive to the pressure I’ve put on this boy to come out. What you aren’t conscious of, perhaps because you’re a heterosexual, is the tremendous pressure this frat boy is under to stay in the closet — the pressure he’s getting perhaps from his faith, from the culture, from society, from his fellow frat boys, from the expectation that everyone carries around that everyone else until they open their mouths to say that they’re gay, is straight. The pressure that closet cases get from the gay men that they interact with, from the openly gay men that they want to sleep with, to come out, in no way compares to the pressure they’re under to stay in.
Sometimes people who are closeted, are closeted because they’re cowards, are closeted because no one’s given them a kick in the ass that they need and that they will be grateful for down the road. Being out is the price of admission for having an adult, gay sex life. Being out is the price of admission for having a boyfriend; it’s the price of admission for getting your ass fucked by healthy, ethical, together, smart, already out people. Gay people should constantly be pressuring people who aren’t out, to be out because things only change for the better when people are out. You look at the polling data that shows that people who know people that are openly gay are much likelier to support gay marriage, much likelier to support gay people adopting and having children, much likelier to support hate crimes legislation, much likelier to support workplace protection for gays and lesbians because they finally know somebody who’s gay.
It’s important, not only to each of us who is gay as individuals to be out for ourselves, it’s important for us to be out for each other. We have a responsibility to be out for the gay people who are coming after us; we have a responsibility to be out for the gay 13 year-olds who aren’t out yet and to set an example, and to help make the world a better, more welcoming, more tolerant place for them by coming the fuck out already. “You don’t want to be out? Good. Take the dick out of your mouth, and put the dick down and back out of my apartment.” That’s what this guy’s boyfriend needs to tell him. A gay person owes it to himself and all other gay people to be out. You don’t have the courage to be out, you don’t have the courage to suck the dick. Put it down. Back away.
It sounds like your heart’s in the right place; I don’t mean to beat you the fuck up. But often there’s this hand-wringing from straight people who don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about when it comes to issues around the closet — that the sympathy with closet cases is “ohh, it’s a deeply personal decision” and “ohhh, it’s so hard and wakka wakka wakka….” You know what? It’s not that hard. It’s not that hard to tell the truth. It’s not that hard to be honest. Individual circumstances may vary… somebody with fundamentalist Christian batshit parents, if one of the Phelps kids is gay: that’s going to be hard to come out. Individual circumstances may vary, but you know what? It isn’t harder now, no matter what your circumstances are now, than it was for the guys who were coming out in the 50s and 60s and 70s. It can’t be harder. The path has been blazed for these guys. Now when you’re an adult and you’re closeted, and you want your closet accommodated and you want people to feel sorry for you because ”look ohh, you’re on the cross and oh, it’s so hard and you’re living a double life wahhh”? Boo fucking hoo. You straight people fall for that bullshit. That, you know, object of pity-closet case horse shittery because you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Again, I don’t mean to beat the fuck up on you. I just want you to understand that we live in a time when, for the first time in really centuries, a space has been created for openly gay and lesbian people to live their lives with a little bit of integrity. People have paid with their lives to create that space. Folks owe it to those people and to themselves, if they’re going to enjoy the fruits of this hard-won space, if they’re going to live in this space, to pay the minimum dues which is to be out already. And if you have a boyfriend, you’re old enough and engaged enough to be out, and your boyfriend has a right to demand that you come out and live with some integrity and some honesty… and put some pressure on you! A lot of people don’t come out until there’s pressure that counteracts the pressure to stay in the closet, and it’s important and it’s valuable. And we gay people have to hold the closet cases to account. They want to sleep with us! Fuck them. You want to fuck us? You want to fuck openly? You want to openly—go find another closet case! God knows they’re out there; go sleep with Ted fucking Haggard. You want a gay boyfriend? Then you need to be a gay guy. Publicly. Because having a boyfriend is a public act.
- Dan Savage’s response to a complaint he received for his advice to a closeted gay frat boy on coming out, "Savage Lovecast" podcast, Episode #194, July 6, 2010
haha yeah i remember hearing that. he said she was hot and straddled him… he claimed it turned him off because she was too forward but what the heckkkk. its not like she tried to have sex with him she literally was like trying to be sexy and flirt and any other guy would be into it. it was weird….
even when any of the girls in the house touched him or sat by him he like flinched and got all weird about it.
Pardon if I am remembering incorrectly, but wasn’t there a conversation early on, in the storage room I believe, in which Zach told Pow that he doesn’t flirt with girls? I remember something like that. I will search online when I get home.
Yep. I just reblogged a gif set of it.